[Jay Pan ROKK]

Originally Posted by chriskiss

Let me start with your argument about ethanol not impacting food production. Firstly, you're displacing food crops by now growing food. Second, you're using up farmers who will want to grow ethanol crops because it is more profitable.

That is good, we need more farmers cropping everything we need, farming is a never ending renewable source.

Now, the ethanol argument. Ethanol and water mixtures have something called an azeotrope. This means that the mixture can only be distilled to a particular purity; in this case, 95% purity of ethanol. It takes a lot of energy or extra reactants in order to produce the 99.5% purity that is required for ethanol to be an additive in gasoline. The net energy used to produce fuel grade ethanol is negative. Ethanol is a lie that the government has adopted in order to assure the public that the energy crisis is not a crisis.

These kind of problem were solved in the 80´s.

Let me give you some numbers where ethanol is a reality, Brazil.

1. 95% of all new cars are flex, that means these engines can burn any mix of gas and ethanol, from 100% gas to 100% ethanol.

2. every single gas station in the country offer gas and ethanol.

3. regular gas already has 25% of ethanol.

4. regular diesel already has 2% of bio-diesel, and it will increase 2% every year.

So, bio-fuel works, it is not a lie, it is not negative, quite the contrary.

Instead of sending money to an oligopoly in middle east, we are supporting million farmers.

USA can do the same, the less dependent we are on oil the better.