[IChinaManI]

I mean like grabbing the same side lapel as the sleeve. Yeah I think I might have to commit fully to tai as in like almost falling forward with it for it to work. I find kata guruma pretty easy to fall from. Just do a roll and ukemi. Sode tsurikomi goshi is easily one of the most painful throws. A hard osoto can be pretty brutal. I always feel bad when I throw someone in uchikomi with uchi mata cause I can;t give supprt most of the time. I commit fully to it, so I'm often falling over myself lol. I find makikomis really painful as well.