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yeah, we didnt get in any trouble at france 98, for years the police was taking names of known firm members and took their passports off them so they had no chance of going.
and the guy that said they are poor people with nothing to live for, these guys were buisness men, managers, shop owners... and the one thing that stood them out was the designer clothes they wore as said above, not replica shirts like the rest of the fans..
no one has done football violence like the english, but I dont expect them too.
you read about russia and poland and how bad it looks, but that is nothing compared to how English football was in the 70`s and 80`s, which is a good thing, but the problem with English fans now is, when we do go to Europe for games, people always remember what we use to be like, and something always kicks off, and the English are almost totaly outnumbered due to we dont have firms going there anymore and dont go looking for trouble, where they are waiting for us in huge numbers..
here is the best eg of how bad it was here... no other country has had a league banned from gaining entry to the uefa cup or european cup because of supporters. we had all clubs banned for a few years because everywhere liverpool went, they fucked everything up, and they even killed a load of supporters at a european cup final I think by rushing a stand and making it collapse.
they was fucked up times, and im glad we dont have shit like that anymore, and all these other countries and brag about what they like, good, you think what you want, but at least I can go to a game here and feel safe, and id even go to russia to watch a game and I know what ever they do, it will never be as bad as what it was like here...
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