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Old 04-29-2008, 09:46 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Remember McCain was born in Colon(SP?) Panama not the Panama canal Zone. McCain is a citizen we are just not clear on what kind of citizen.
Well as you can see, fro the Nationality chart that I posted, he is an American citizen. Where he was born is completely irrelevent. He did NOT naturalize. I see what you are trying to say. For instance person x is born in India to Indian parentage. He later comes to America and Naturalizes. He could not be president. The difference with McCain is this, his parents are US Citizens. As both of his parents are citizens he derived citizenship the moment he was born, as long as one of his parents resided in the US prior to his birth. Since they /he met the retention requirements, he has always been a US citizen. If he had not met the retention requirements of the day, he would has lost his status and we would have a different discussion. Do not let the fact that he was or wasnt born on something considered us soil confuse you. The chart I showed refers to Children Born Outside U.S. in Wedlock. Outside the USA, not a territory or province or military base. In a completely different country. So by this example he is a citizen and always been by virtue of birth. I have studied Naturalization law extensively. Also, Jus Soli is still very applicable to American Law. Childeren born to Soldiers overseas off military bases use Jus Soli. Missionaries have a child overseas, child would use Jus Soli to get citizenship. When the "anchor babies" of today begin to have children in Mexico, it will be Jus Sanguinis that gets them citizenship. Jus Sanguinis is used to figure foreign born childrens citizenship daily. So it has plenty to do with American Law.

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