[Hester65]

Originally Posted by sushijin

You threw out names from the 70's, so I might as well play. Yes, I agree that Marciano would lose to all of the fighters you mentioned, save Chuvalo and possibly Shavers. Marciano would have beefed up a bit more to fight in the 70's, just the way Quarry did. Quarry started as a 190 lber as well.

But he wouldn't have laid claim to the HW throne in the 70's, IMO. He could have been a tough contender in the way of a Quarry, though. That's better than being a no namer, the way you suggested he would end up. But again, there's nothing to argue here. Everyone can have their opinion.. Obviously we'll never find out either way. Just have accurate numbers and you'll hear nothing from me. I understand your viewpoint, and actually agree with some of the logic behind it.

Rocky was a better fighter than most of you guys think he was. And to say an undefeated HW champ couldn't at least compete, is a shame (I know you didn't say that sushijin).

Rocky could possibly laid claim to the thrown before Ali got to it (i.e. i agree that Rocky would most likely not made the belt in the 70's but it was possible). Liston is was a very hard hitter, but so was the Rock. Rocky had a better heart and stamina. That would be a fight I would have loved to see...