[Knots619]

Originally Posted by Zankou

I currently have a black eye from gettting kicked in the face as I went for this exact kneebar setup.

That said, you are right, it's an awesome move, and sitting right there from the z guard.

On Kesting's dvd he describes this move as an entrance into the general leglock game. And so Kirby's move into the "leglock" guard is his approach. Myself, I tend to prefer the kneebar (particularly since the leglock guard isn't that great when you can't use heelhooks), so that's what I find myself trying for. You could also toehold them ... basically the whole leglock game is there.

what is 'z gaurd?'