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Old 01-10-2008, 04:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Chesten_Hesten View Post
You tell me.. I wanted them to chase my hand. I had trained for about 3 years by then and was really getting a good arm for epee. Sliipery disengages were my mainstay, so I thought it was great that anyone would try and grab my hand or disarm or catch my knife hand. When they went for it, It put it somewhere else. When they hesitated I stabbed them and jumped back. Its just training for reacting to the moment. Dealing with the distance.
If they were attempting to slash your knife hand it is a technique called "defanging the snake". It is usually the first and most basic disarm in Kali. In this case (knife fighting) you are attempting to slash the weapon hand which in many situation would cause the weapon to be dropped or the opponent would be very hesitant to be on the agressive because of damage done to the knife hand. Defanging the Snake can be used in any aspect of Kali. Stick, sword,empty hand,staff etc. can all employ the use of defanging the snake.

If they were trying to get a hold of you knife hand (which I suspect they were) they were attempting a disarm or trying gunting. Too often I see overconfident Kali sparrers try disarms and IMO disarms are only functional when you get in tight to your opponent. Just like in wrestling you can't shoot in when you are too far away or you'll be sprawled on.

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Originally Posted by Chesten_Hesten View Post
Ever watch the scene from Game of Death where lee has that bamboo stick and he has it out with Dan Inasanto and the two Kali Sticks. All that broken rythum, etc, etc He was fencing in that scene, totally. He was just using the distance, and the tempo, and the movement, to strike and not be hit.
I'm not familar with broken rhythm being a Fencing aspect but I'll take your word for it. I was told that JKD's broken rhythm was taken from Boxing and in particular Muhammad Ali's style. But as you see in that film the footwork used in JKD is primarily Boxing and Fencing (which is very alike).

Guro Inosanto has stated in the past that in that scene Bruce uses Kali movements. But I believe that Fencing was also used in this scene because years earlier Bruce had his brother (a champion fencer) teach him Fencing which is why he used Fencing footwork in JKD. As I said in my last post Kali was influenced by Spanish Fencing.
Fencing and Kali have a lot in common. After writing this and having some reflection I'll try it out to improve on my Kali. Thanks for the motivation.
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