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Old 09-17-2007, 04:41 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Cayne-Abel View Post
I am sure that Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Kristol, etc. all BELIEVED that their real motives for the war were good for the country, and I'm sure they BELIEVED that it was ultimately necessary to hide those real motives. They seem to have a Machiavellian (sp?) view of leadership, and I'm sure they believe that that is the best way to lead the country to prosperity. Unfortunately for them, such views are, in principle, antithetical to the democratic process.
again, I don't see how anyone can make this claim about the Bush admin's state of mind, or why it is necessary to speculate for that matter. how can anyone say with an certainty that Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz et. al. all BELIEVED that their real motives were good for the country? we are not mindreaders, so no one can safely vouch for their sincerity. maybe they truly are sincere, maybe they are truly craven and have only THEIR OWN interests at heart, and not America's. I think the only logical stance to take on this is to remain agnostic. Either way, it doesn't really matter, their policies are either disastrous or undemocratic, possibly both, but certainly not neither (according to your own logic).
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