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Old 09-17-2007, 02:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
peregrine

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I disagree on any caliber pistol being a good man stopper.
Though any bullet that will hit them in the head will surely give you more time. I'd choose a hit of a lowly .22lr in someones face over hitting them with a .45cal ball ammo in the body. That would give me more time to follow up shoot him again in the head or flee.

I feel a shotgun in 00buck is more effective in home defence. In a 2.75" shell that should be 9 ballbearings the size of .37-.38 cal going down range. Or equivalent to shooting a .38 pistol 9 times. If i remember correctly a 3" 00buck shell carries a payload of 16 ball bearings measuring .37-.38cal.

A .45cal is around 230gr of ****l coming at you, some 9mm are as light as 115gr. But the bullet design and speed now make a bigger difference than they did 40years ago(approx) when ball ammo is all you had.

Jeff Cooper definatelly knows what he's talking about, but he was from an age of years gone by. His books and training are still the bench mark of many, but things improve as we get more experience and technology advances. Todays rds are more scientifically designed to create more trauma, so a .45cal ball wound of yesterday would be less than some of the newer police or self defense rounds. Jeff Cooper taught the same curriculum for years, not taking into account new developments found in the field or shown in combat shoots. To me this was a mistake. If you are familiar with Coopers works it is a very good base, but just as mma has evolved through training and actual fights so has the art of using the pistol in combat.

Never get to the point of stopping to learn and field test things.
Airsoft in the recent years has proven a huge myth buster, it is to some equivalent to actual sparring in fighting. The stand and plant your feet in a pistol fight to send rounds down range is now being seriouslly questioned as both shooters are recieving hits, possibly both being mortal.
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