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Old 08-28-2007, 07:23 AM   #76 (permalink)
re-animator

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ok, i see your point, im still new to this shit, so still learning and try to remain open minded.

i know that people can manage both the strength and conditioning routines on the training section of the forums, but for new comers its difficult to find a balance between the 2 aspects, and they will burn themselves out like i have done a few times, a new comer whos looking to develop into an all round athelete will likely neglect some part of their training or put a half assed job in if they are constantly sore and tired from lifting heavy 3 times a week and doing high intensity cardio routines.

i just dont like going into thread and reading

read the faq
eat lots
rest

over and over again. not everyone wants to be a heavy powerlifter, some people need to maintain weight, some people care about the way they look more than others also, i just think maybe the faq needs some greater unity with conditioning, and fitting in with mma training/ma training.

maybe if there was an mma specific sub forum or something or added to an existing faq, that could be written by someone who manages both strength and conditioning (like the pro/am fighters you mentioned)

like how to fit in a 5x5 routine with conditioning for fighting, and stuff on resting, listening to your body, what kind of week routines worked for them, stuff on training twice a day, how to manage it all together etc

the kind of strength required for a heavy squat or deadlift is only one form of strength, there is still explosive strength, speed strength, strength endurance which are a bit neglected i think(maybe ive havnt read enough on here)

some people like myself may need to work on max and explosive strength, whilst others might need more muscle endurance. some kind of master plan of squat/dead/bench for 5x5 isnt going to work for everyone, and most new comers dont have enough knowledge to make something to fit their goals and strengths/weaknesses

maybe thats the fault of new comers not always being clear with their goals or mentioning the conditiong work they do/plan to do, but yeah just think there is a powerlifting bias to a degree, or a bias towards maximal strength training at least.

im sure most of the more experienced posters on here know all about strength and perhaps they could show their knowledge more effectivley if new comers where more clean with their goals and what they already do condition wise.

when i see pro fighter training clip, i hardly ever see max strength training, is this more so because they have already developed good max strength from a powerlifting type routine or are their different reasons im not aware of? like you see ufc all access, never see the fighters cranking out 300lbs deadlifts, matt hughes and rich franklin used machines in their workouts! couture,gsp,chuck etc seemed to mix their strength training with their conditioning training. maybe im looking to far into pro fighters training clips.

thats enough rambling on for me.

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