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Originally Posted by Aesopian
I think our experiences flavor each of our opinions, but I get where you're coming from. I used to not think much of coming out through the legs, but (as I wrote above), I see how it can work now that I've learned parallel game with my different butterfly hook guards. I don't think it a style that will work for a lot of guys until they've got about an intermediate skill level (which is when the greater ability to use momentum and combinations makes it viable).
The underhook and take the back game is included in my goals too though. I think they'll compliment each other well, since I see opportunities for one when they block the other.
I agree that the half butterfly hook makes this game easier, since you can use it to create space and lift them off. It also works into x-guard better. But like I said, I've got an injury that prevents me from using that hook, so I'm trying to find another way to play.
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I just don't like scooping the hand under the thigh in half guard because it remembers the top man to close his legs off. If you watch the Saulo no-gi DVDs on HG, the techs 1-4 show how he has his tight compact top HG. Most guys I roll with use this so their free leg is tight and not based out making a hole. If I saw that often I would come out the butt more. Usually when I try this, they pinch their legs and trap my arm, then I can't block much the crossface.
Also, if top man's legs are not tight, you can put easily the full guard.
One move I love in HG is a little ankle-lacer. I'm in bottom HG with a decent underhook and my free hand is protect my neck for the crossface. I am on my side and I want the underhook high as normal.
So I am trapping his right leg BTW. My right leg is triangled and bent over the back of his knee and my left leg is just finishing the triangle. Take your left leg and step over his right leg and slide your heel down to his ankle. Use your ankle to pull his heel like you pull your heel to the butt. Don't be mean and bust his knee though, because here you can jack him up.
Come tot he top and scoop your hands and it's the position as if you just hit the wrestling Navy takedown. He is flat on his back and you pass that is left of his half guard.
It's like when I'm bottom side control and I turn into my opponent and turtle up a little and attack the single leg. If I pull his knee he can spin and face me and sprawl all day. If I slide my hand down and "snake" his ankle, he cant spin or he will blow his knee. Since he can't spin, I cut my angle and I take the top. In HG I just do this technique with my foot so I can keep my underhook on his back. You could just turtle up and face and do the single form HG but you want to use the advantage.
On the HG sweep, the only real defense is him back-stepping into a sit-out position and working the passes where he is facing your legs, almost in "eddie bravo twister side control."
Another leg-lacer is when your guy is bottom turtled and you want to make the hooks. I want to hook his left leg so I put my left knee outside his left knee almost like wrestling's down position and I'm the top man. I use my right leg and just step over his left ankle. I use my heel to pull his left leg over my left leg and I've got the hook. This comes straight from college wrestling and you go straight into the leg ride of your choice.
If it's hard to make the 2nd hook, you can make a lockdown on the leg and ride 1 leg or just spin off and calf-crusher his trapped leg. Or like me you can make the banana splits.
If you want to control the leg, take the ankle.