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Originally Posted by Brandon Couden

there was actually pankration back in the day when the romans had the olympics as well as boxing and wrestling, so just saying ones older doesnt really win the agument, but boxing is still a more popular world wide and there there are alot more seasoned veterns with years of expierence. We havent seen any guys yet who have been participating in mma since they were 6 yet. MMA still has alot of fighters who are athletes from other sports such as wrestling, judo, ju jitsu, kickboxing, ect. we are just starting so see what pure mma fighers are, guys like rich franklin.
Right now boxing titles are fucked up, to many sanctioning bodies, rarley one recognized champion, so its difficult to even know who is the champ so not as prestigous as they once were. Unfortunaly MMA is becoming more and more like that with all the new organizations popping up, we will have to judge who's the best by rankings like boxing does. The thing is it easier in boxing to unify titles than it is IN mma right now. Hopkins was the undisputed middle weight champ hands down, before the two losses to Jermain Taylor (they were both draws in my opinion). Its all entertainment so who cares, whats important is whats more important to you and what do you like.

Hes right, Pankration was done by the Greeks bak in the day at the olympics...but when the romans came along they say it as too barbaric and they split up pankration into 2 diffretn sports...boxing and wrestling....or somthin like that