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Originally Posted by Alzi_
BJJ and wrestling are more MMA-ready and easier to incoporate into an MMA repoitoire than Judo. Judo will not be suitable for MMA until it stops being so heavily gi-reliant and allows more than 5 seconds for grappling on the ground.
And I also think they need to work on positioning after throws. Look at how Karo was unable to establish dominant position after throwing Diego who kept scrambling out. Ironically, Karo was able to control him best using double-leg takedowns.
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Every grappling art has strenghs and weakness. BJJ realies on gi as well, many submissions in BJJ are hard or impossible to do without a gi. BJJ also seriously neglects the stand up portion of the grappling. This arguably makes it less suitable for MMA than judo right "out of the box". Wrestling has it's weaknesses as well, no submissions is one.
You are wrong about the 5 second ground limitation in judo. It takes 25 seconds to win a judo match with a pin, which would obviously be imposssible way to win with such a limitation.
I'd also argue your point about the lack of ground control in judo. You are trying to show how judo lacks ground control by providing a single example. That's a poor way to prove something. I could counter with two Nog fights - he couldn't maintain a top position against Fedor a single time. He often got reversed during takedown attempts as well. Fresh Nastula also reversed Nog with ease when he was on top.
For ground control I would say that with everything else being equal wrestling > judo > bjj. In judo you can win a fight by pinning your opponent. Ability to pin translates into the ability to control the fight on the ground and maintain top position. Wrestling has it, judo has it, BJJ does not.