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Old 08-30-2006, 01:01 PM   #36 (permalink)
computer fogie
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Originally Posted by kartaron
Hair, skin and other materials would have been present in their car, hotel, house, etc.
Thanks, I hadn't thought of that, as obvious as it sounds now. I asked a question, you answered. That's how it's supposed to go.

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Originally Posted by Gregster
...Maybe you should have asked computerfogie what can happen when you mock people who actually have a clue regarding things like DNA identification of 9/11 terrorists and their victims.
Once again, since you bring this up about once a month: I said that DNA is destroyed at 150 degrees C (per a source I found). You said that DNA can be extracted from even badly burnt bodies (per a source you found). I deferred to you on that, agreeing that if the DNA itself doesn't reach 150C, it can be extracted, and then asked how a fire could burn so incredibly hot that it could consume (not just melt) TONS of aluminum and steel and titanium, but leave DNA intact. You said there was nothing special about the Pentagon fires temperature. We then go around and around on that point. You say the fire wasn't unusually hot, and I say it was.

You say a 6 1/2 ton engine can penetrate a wall without leaving a hole, I say that's impossible. You say I can't know anything because I'm not a PhD in structural engineering, I say it only takes a child to see that. You say one wing was sheared off before hitting the outer wall, I say "then where did it go"? You say the other wing hit the ground first, breaking it up into little pieces, I say "where is the lawn damage"? You then realize that all close images of the lawn indeed do show it undamaged (oops!), so you post a pic taken FROM A SATELLITE, and have the balls to say it proves the lawn wass damaged (you couldn't even see where the lawn was in that pic, it was so tiny).
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