[Octavian]

For some people - they think he's great and the man... not sure about the man love thing that goes on

But I have to argue with this point by noting that I think the majority of Sharedoggers come out of the wood work to jump on the Vitor hate wagon these days and blindly overlook his current skills and age.... its not that he may ever be great but his talent is superb his head isn't always there and his conditioning lets him down consistently - its really that simple

People are just ignoring the reality of issues and fights here to say that he sucks and is boreing and has no future.... His fights with Chukc, Tito and Alistair #2 all could have gone the other way very easily and were alot closer than people tend to remember at this point. Had Vitor not totally gassed or been screwed by judges in those fights - this thread would be flamed by idiots who thinks he's unbeatable... but the reality is that when he does fight top talen outside of Couture, he competes very very evenly with it and give strong account of his skills but seems to find a way to lose...

He's not bad and alot better than what alot of the haters would have you beleive... the fan boy stuff is stupid too though - I have no explanation for that... but Vitor is more than capable and feed him more B or C level fighters in the next year and I can almost guarantee that the hater's view of him changes